[REQUEST]Can the visual damage be tweaked to match the Reincarnation pre-alpha style?

MrDeviance · Post by **MrDeviance** » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:38 am

Whenever I look at a pre-alpha version of Reincarnation, I notice the car damage physics seem much more fun and appealing to me than what is left in Max Damage today.

Does anybody have any idea of how to tweak the visual damage in Max Damage, to match the one seen in this video for example?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFAeMu7i_-Q

Psyrgery · Post by **Psyrgery** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:07 am

Use my tweaks, the damage model is closer to how it was in C:R pre-alpha, it took a hit when the game was ported to console and the physics had to run on mobile cpus.

EDIT: to be more precise, I modified the damage model by increasing the deformation subdivisions (which was 1000 in C:R and 6 in MD if I recall correctly) and by severely increasing the amount of detachables.

It looks much better now when a car is hit by a mine or mortar and lots of parts fly everywhere.

You can check it in one of my videos in Youtube, it's called messing with config.lua (damage model improved)

Psyrgery · Post by **Psyrgery** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:07 am

P.S. Sorry double post

flykas · Post by **flykas** » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:25 pm

Yeah, damage and physics in alpha were more natural and sometimes more complex. I'd like to bring that back.

hazardic · Post by **hazardic** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:09 am

Psyrgery wrote:Use my tweaks, the damage model is closer to how it was in C:R pre-alpha, it took a hit when the game was ported to console and the physics had to run on mobile cpus.
EDIT: to be more precise, I modified the damage model by increasing the deformation subdivisions (which was 1000 in C:R and 6 in MD if I recall correctly) and by severely increasing the amount of detachables.

It looks much better now when a car is hit by a mine or mortar and lots of parts fly everywhere.

You can check it in one of my videos in Youtube, it's called messing with config.lua (damage model improved)

would you mind to share a link, please? :)

AlexTSK · Post by **AlexTSK** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:41 am

A link to his topic

http://www.carmageddon.com/forum/topic/29739

MrDeviance · Post by **MrDeviance** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:15 am

Psyrgery wrote:Use my tweaks, the damage model is closer to how it was in C:R pre-alpha, it took a hit when the game was ported to console and the physics had to run on mobile cpus.
EDIT: to be more precise, I modified the damage model by increasing the deformation subdivisions (which was 1000 in C:R and 6 in MD if I recall correctly) and by severely increasing the amount of detachables.

It looks much better now when a car is hit by a mine or mortar and lots of parts fly everywhere.

You can check it in one of my videos in Youtube, it's called messing with config.lua (damage model improved)

Hey thanks. I had read your topic but I thought your mod only dealt with the type of damage that cars do to other cars at a statistic level and not on a visual level.

It would have helped if you had some comparison videos in the topic but I guess that stuff takes lots of time.

Psyrgery · Post by **Psyrgery** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:27 am

Fuck, forget what I said, the last tweaks I mention here were not uploaded to my Dropbox folder because I did not mean to include then in my mod, I mean I only got to fiddle with them a bit.

In I recall correctly I even managed ti increase the draw distance by a wide margin too.

I will update my mod later on today, sorry for the false information.

EDIT: Nevertheless the video really I mentione shows the tweaks I mentioned, I will try to make some comparison pics

flykas · Post by **flykas** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:47 am

Psyrgery wrote:Fuck, forget what I said, the last tweaks I mention here were not uploaded to my Dropbox folder because I did not mean to include then in my mod, I mean I only got to fiddle with them a bit.
In I recall correctly I even managed ti increase the draw distance by a wide margin too.

I will update my mod later on today, sorry for the false information.

EDIT: Nevertheless the video really I mentione shows the tweaks I mentioned, I will try to make some comparison pics

Nice, I'd like to try that out.

MrDeviance · Post by **MrDeviance** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:24 pm

Psyrgery wrote:Fuck, forget what I said, the last tweaks I mention here were not uploaded to my Dropbox folder because I did not mean to include then in my mod, I mean I only got to fiddle with them a bit.
In I recall correctly I even managed ti increase the draw distance by a wide margin too.

I will update my mod later on today, sorry for the false information.

EDIT: Nevertheless the video really I mentione shows the tweaks I mentioned, I will try to make some comparison pics

Aww ok, no problem. At least my topic helped with something to a degree.

Psyrgery · Post by **Psyrgery** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:26 pm

Okay, when I got home I found out that the last set of tweaks I made were a mess, so I spent the whole afternoon setting it up again from scratch.

I am not sure if you will like these tweaks, but give it a shot anyway, maybe you will enjoy it.

Download it here

ZeMantras · Post by **ZeMantras** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:49 am

thks for the new tweaks will try

if u want more vec deformation just grab Psyrgery's "misc_maps.lua" and edit it, its pretty much all there under "car_damage_detail_map", its very straightforward.

Psyrgery · Post by **Psyrgery** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:17 am

ZeMantras wrote:thks for the new tweaks will try

if u want more vec deformation just grab Psyrgery's "misc_maps.lua" and edit it, its pretty much all there under "car_damage_detail_map", its very straightforward.

Hi ZeMantras,

that file only contains the presets for the amounts of detachable parts to be handled by the engine, (and my edits are only meant to work if you have set the game graphics config to "Best quality")

In fact, the game crush parameters are found in the file CGameParameters.lol which itself is found in the scripts folder within the ZAD file scripts.zad.

After you've decrypted it you can modify the blood colour, gravity, crush parameters, etc.

The files I've tweaked the most are this one and game_balance.lol which handles the damage input and output between the player and cpu opponents, among other things such as APO or credits.

MrDeviance · Post by **MrDeviance** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:24 pm

Thanks a lot for the effort man.

flykas · Post by **flykas** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:07 am

Hey it is a nice tweak, I love how detached parts litter the track. Also the the crushing is better.

I'm not sure if this is influenced by the tweak, but sometimes I get that soap brick buck where car's body loses traction with environment I remember getting it often in Alpha.

Also I think it would be cool to increase amount of bloody tire tracks and dead bodies, this way the track would look even better.

caiusmisus · Post by **caiusmisus** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:36 pm

Psyrgery wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:26 pm Okay, when I got home I found out that the last set of tweaks I made were a mess, so I spent the whole afternoon setting it up again from scratch.I am not sure if you will like these tweaks, but give it a shot anyway, maybe you will enjoy it.Download it here

If anybody is still around, exactly what changes are included in these files? Only the destruction talked about in this thread? Or also the damage tweaks from the previous Psyrgery mod? Anything else? Always found it a little annoying as there are multiple versions of these files going around and nobody ever lists what exactly is and is not included in them...

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