Eidos halts development of Carmageddon

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Eidos halts development of Carmageddon

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Just some News I thought I'd pass on..
Eidos has halted development of Carmageddon at Visual Science, GamesIndustry.biz understands, although it's not clear whether the game has been canned completely or whether it will resurface at another developer.
http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10958

Doesn't sound too good :¬[

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Well, then that's the last straw. :mad:
We need to seriously start working on our own game.
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I said something was strange these past few months. Not a single screenshot, preview, or anything, and it had a supposed "Summer 2005" release. To be honest, I never expected to see anything happen.
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looks like Visual Science havent even got a full team as yet anyhow:-

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/recruitmen ... b_id=15221

thats quite alot to advertise all @ once.....
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Re: Eidos halts development of Carmageddon

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Could be something as simple as regrouping and going for next gen consoles, instead of hitting the going out ones.
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yeah .. possibly. that sounds like a reasonable idea.

@ mad max: never expected a positive comment from you either .. but, you was right in this case anyway.
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I'm not really surprised.... but I hope something good comes out of this. Though, I just doubt that this is anything but a bad omen.

Even if a true sequel is released some day, I will be amazed if it is 10% as awesome as we want it to be. (Please prove me wrong. I want a good Carmageddon game.)

Meh. I might have a brighter outlook if they will share a little bit of development info with us.... whenever the hell they start to get somewhere with this franchise. :suicide:
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Re: Eidos halts development of Carmageddon

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What if.. it turns the same way as that Starcraft FPS game, "Starcraft Ghost". Pretty much finished, and then they dump it. Or as for the Sam & Max sequel which a quite big bunch of people waited and waited for. Both games were showing promesing stuff. Check out the screens

Starcraft Ghost

Don't have a specific URL to Sam & Max: Freelance Police, but this one is interesting Save Sam & Max
(click on "what can I do" and read about Tell Tale Games)
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The thing about Starcraft Ghost is the game was finished, then Blizzard realized they made a fatal mistike by catering to the 12 year old console crowd. The result was a shallow 3rd person action game with the Starcraft name slapped on. So, everything was scrapped and started over with a new developer.

Sam and Max 2 was a perfect example of how Lucas Arts went down the toilet. Today they're run by people afraid to take risks. They were the best at one time then gradually shifted over to Star Wars, and now we see one rushed Star Wars title after another. Thankfully the Sam and Max license was sold to the creator some months ago, so there's a good chance it will come back.

About Carmageddon 4...they don't have to cancel it if the direction changed towards a next gen console release. But, if that's the case, don't expect anythng but a cheap console port to the PC. That's the best we can hope for. Every single once popular PC franchise is going that route.
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pessimistic much?
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I prefer cynic. I'm just clearly explaining the reality of the situation. I can be a dumbass and accept the "oh we're using a few extra weeks to add extra polish to make a super good game really super awesome good kickass to the max!" explanation, but then I'd have to scrounge up some rubber boots and a bigass shovel to dig myself out of the bullshit I let them bury me in.
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Is that visual science be VIS as in --> In 1999 the Stainless team become part of the VIS entertainment group. ??

BTW: In Spring 2005, SCi - the original publishers of Carmageddon - commissioned Stainless to work on an undisclosed project.

Its all here: http://www.stainlessgames.com/history/
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Homepages for the two:

VIS entertainment group: http://www.visentertainment.com/index.htm
Visual Science: http://www.vissci.com/
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Oh well, better its not that, cause if it was it was halted over there then

Heh, why don they get VIS for it...buh no wait, thats closed since july 2003? humm

Let me copy some more: Following the closure of the VIS IOW studio in July 2003, a number of the original team rejoined Stainless, including its original co-founder, Neil Barnden.

In Spring 2005, SCi - the original publishers of Carmageddon - commissioned Stainless to work on an undisclosed project.

I wonder i wonder...
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Yeah, I remember the news about the return of Neil "Nobby" Barnden.
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the suspense is killin me TTR
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halted? eh... there will always be a gleam of hope shimmering deepwithin my eyes....
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I can come clean now, I was working on the title ages ago (18 months or so). When someone comes in asking what you'd like to see in a new Caramgeddon title, there's a good chance that they're from the dev team and are looking for opinions of the hardcore fans, i.e you lot...
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I think you'll get some questions, and some explaining to do later on from this day :grin:
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Yeah, I had a little hunch of that back when you said: "Trust me, a new carma game *will* arrive in 2005...". :wink:
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There's not alot I can answer tbh, I left it 18 months ago and am still under NDA.
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Sure thing, I got that. It was just that I guessed that a lot of thoughts are coming from a lot of people. Regardless if they get an answer or not :smile:
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I Cant beleive it! thanks alot Eidos now there will be no Carmageddon 4 under the christmas tree!THIS SUCKS!!!. :mad: :suicide:
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I know this sounds a wee bit crazy but i live about 30 miles away from dundee where visual science are based and christ there are gonna be some legs broken! if they think they can crush HUNDREDS of fans dreams of a new game emerging and relighting the EPIC series of games we love and call carmageddon, well they better think agaain. i WILL go to there office and ask wtf is going on because its ridiculous that such an amazing game would be halted. i know edios arew having some ruff times after there angel of darkness nightmare but investing in such a popular game as carmagedddon must be a good money macking scheme. so you dicks up in your offices with your magic bean counting fingers can get it up you if you dont know how to count those beans!

thanks for your time. i am really pissed.
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I bet the reason Edios cancelled Carmageddon 4 so they can quickly compile a crappy game of there own and hype it up and buck off it but thats just my opinion
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yeah like that new crazy frog racing game :confused: . quite sad that humans would buy such crap. maybe we should get someone to tap dance in clogs in the tune of crazy frog and replace the words of the song with clog. could be intresting and the opening movie to the new carmageddon game. if ever. :mad:
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You can atleast throw some rotten used toilet paper and eggs at the visual sciences building that would show em Were ticked off! :rockon:
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yay! angry mob!
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Dont forget the malfunctioning fireworks aimed at the windows of there little corperate suites :smile:
OOOHHH and the sparkeler bombs The perfect way to kick of 2006! :tongue:
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Yeah, that would Really make them take the time and get the game out to us! Duh!
If I would be one of them and found eggs and toilet paper on the window, I would rather stomp the game even further down the thrash bin. Just as a way to give the finger or something similar. I would not and will never do anything for an angry person.
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Too late now! Eidos probably donated the carmageddon 4 disks to a zoo for the animals to toss around
way before I started babbling on about egging and toilet papering Eidos and maybe before 2004

just to think...Carmageddon is gone forever just because of some finacial problem
Im going to blame that crazy frog game in production oh well...
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New guy here...

Just started playing C2 again and is (was) really looking forward to C4... so it's really not happening? :sad:
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Not for the moment - I guess there's no reason it can't be picked up again at a later date, but face it guys - it's not like it was going to be good anyway :P
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as long ppl dont stop playing c2 and tdr, carmageddon wont die o.o , and im pretty sure some1 will come up with the idea to make it themselves o.o
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Well, Carmageddon never was a top selling game as others. It's sad that Eidos decided to halt it (crush it and don't care about it anymore). But lets face it, these big corporations don't take risks anymore, Carmageddon is a risk because it's not that easily sold due to several factors... PC games aren't that good selling now because of the consoles, now new consoles are coming out and Carmageddon is not a console game, it simply doesn't work there.

So you limit a game to one platform (PC), you decide not to invest money since you don't think it'll be that well selling. The project gets crushed.

By the way, I find it pretty difficult to get a Carmageddon better than or equal than Carmageddon II. TDR was just wrong.

PumaY2K out.