Carma GoG win95/3dfx any resolution (no black bars)

Lenor · Post by **Lenor** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:42 pm

win95

Download and install the windows 95 patch from http://www.gog.com/en/forum/carmageddon/experimental_windows_95_patch/page1

Download ddraw.dll from http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/#download and copy it in the same folder as carm95.exe

Open ddraw.ini and change the resolution to your liking

Play the game using carm95.exe

Personally I use win95 and it works like a charm.

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3dfx

Follow this guide: http://www.gog.com/en/forum/carmageddon/carmageddon_hq_how_to/page1

Toshiba-3 · Post by **Toshiba-3** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:38 pm

The Windows patch is already made of hifi's wrappers.

Why would you overwrite them by themselve? If anything the ones from hifi's site are older than the patch.

If anything, just edit the existing ddraw.ini.

And no offense to you but that 3DFX guide is stupid :/ nGlide is what the GOG release uses already for the hardware mode. To run the 3DFX mode you just have to run the hardware shortcut from the start menu.

There's no need for any guide, just use the supplied shortcuts, or install the Windows patch if both fail.

Lenor · Post by **Lenor** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:58 pm

The Windows patch is already made of hifi's wrappers.

Why would you overwrite them by themselve? If anything the ones from hifi's site are older than the patch.

If anything, just edit the existing ddraw.ini.

With the supplied dll I get a crash if I change the resolution.

And no offense to you but that 3DFX guide is stupid :/ nGlide is what the GOG release uses already for the hardware mode. To run the 3DFX mode you just have to run the hardware shortcut from the start menu.
There's no need for any guide, just use the supplied shortcuts, or install the Windows patch if both fail.

The hardware mode has frame rate issues for me and possibly for other people and also you can't get rid of the black bars or I don't seem to find a way.

If the game works fine without these guides then cool, I just posted them for those who had the same issues as me.

Didn't mean to upset anybody.

Toshiba-3 · Post by **Toshiba-3** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:32 pm

Black bars in hardware mode? (btw hardware mode=3dfx)

You tried hitting + or - to get rid of said bars (in case they come from reduced rendering view)?

And no you're no upsetting anyone obviously.

But I find it important not to confuse casual gamers with these guides and all while all they need is already provided by the GOG release.

Lenor · Post by **Lenor** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:52 pm

You have the black bars on a widescreen monitor even in hardware mode.

And like I said, the original win95 dll didn't allow me to change the resolution.

Toshiba-3 · Post by **Toshiba-3** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:38 pm

Lenor wrote:You have the black bars on a widescreen monitor even in hardware mode.

No I haven't. Thank you :/

Do you have another format than 16/9?

1920*1080 with the GOG release unmodified.

Lenor · Post by **Lenor** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:50 pm

Well, it didn't work for me otherwise I wouldn't try all this crazy shit.

1366x768 on a laptop

lemonrev · Post by **lemonrev** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:17 pm

guys guys guys please.....

If you can get the game to run in window mode why does it matter.

Lenor btw laptops are generally document makers unless its a new'er style machine.

im wide screen and i ran fine fullscreen and whatnot but it looks more horrid since my eyes dont like the extra effect.

however the window mode you can get the game to run in should be fine. as for the black lines like the other dude said + or - should resize the in game screen to maximize the screen.

The top of the post is what this should be about and bickering isnt helping yea

Wotal_Tanker · Post by **Wotal_Tanker** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:37 pm

Toshiba-3 wrote:
Lenor wrote:You have the black bars on a widescreen monitor even in hardware mode.

No I haven't. Thank you :/

Do you have another format than 16/9?

1920*1080 with the GOG release unmodified.

Hi, on my system the "hardware mode" shortcut doesnt automatically start in 1920x1080. Do you know of a way to set it through the command line or any other way to do it? Thanks.

The Win95 mode works for me in 1920x1080 but it hasnt got the same quality as the hardware mode image you showed.

Scorg · Post by **Scorg** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:53 pm

Mines keeps defaulting to 640*480 in hardware mode even though it is set to 1650-1050 within the dosbox configurator

Toshiba-3 · Post by **Toshiba-3** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:40 pm

Wotal_Tanker; Scrog: I'm afraid you'll have to try this 3DFX guide Lenor linked to in his first post here.

cr4zyjay · Post by **cr4zyjay** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:37 pm

dunno. i don't have any black bars in hardware mode. i only play splat pak i havent even run the original mode of the game.

i set my res on the graphic mode setup for splak pack as the following:

basic settings = full screen

graphic mode = surface

advanced settings = keep aspect ratio, scalling engine = normal2x, windows res = my native res 1360x768

just works perfectly for me at least with no black bars. i find the black bars only on the non hardware mode

i do however, have nglide installed, all due to trying to get non GOG versions of this game to work and never got round to uninstalling it. MAYBE... that's a contributing factor. dunno. try my settings and see if it helps.

CzechDeath · Post by **CzechDeath** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:45 pm

cr4zyjay wrote:dunno. i don't have any black bars in hardware mode. i only play splat pak i havent even run the original mode of the game.
i set my res on the graphic mode setup for splak pack as the following:

basic settings = full screen

graphic mode = surface

advanced settings = keep aspect ratio, scalling engine = normal2x, windows res = my native res 1360x768

just works perfectly for me at least with no black bars. i find the black bars only on the non hardware mode

i do however, have nglide installed, all due to trying to get non GOG versions of this game to work and never got round to uninstalling it. MAYBE... that's a contributing factor. dunno. try my settings and see if it helps.

what you have on Scalling Engine ?

Also Im having error dosbox emulator stopped working once It launches... so FUCK

CzechDeath · Post by **CzechDeath** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:25 pm

my carmageddon looks like this

no matter what I set up... except for OpenGL when I setup openGL I get blackscreen...*I forgot to finish my sentence---that is strong tea...*

Espyo · Post by **Espyo** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:05 pm

That is actually an in-game setting. I can't remember for sure what key you press, and I blame different keyboard layouts for that. Personally, I have to press the two keys to the left of the backspace, which correspond to ' and « for me. Anyway, press them, press all keys on the keyboard, or check the options screen. There is a key that increases the screen size.

CzechDeath · Post by **CzechDeath** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:57 pm

Espyo wrote:That is actually an in-game setting. I can't remember for sure what key you press, and I blame different keyboard layouts for that. Personally, I have to press the two keys to the left of the backspace, which correspond to ' and « for me. Anyway, press them, press all keys on the keyboard, or check the options screen. There is a key that increases the screen size.

well the size was least of my problem... the pixelized non 3dfx 320x200 was my issue...

however It is solved... if anyone else is ever getting his ass kicked by gog version ... launch THRU STARTMENU the carmageddon(hardware) once you install latest nGlide...

lemonrev · Post by **lemonrev** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:02 am

that screen thing is to do with + and - keys i believe that game setting that is trying to be worked out is do make the screen full screen while the game is running full screen :P

shane · Post by **shane** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:33 am

lemonrev wrote:that screen thing is to do with + and - keys i believe that game setting that is trying to be worked out is do make the screen full screen while the game is running full screen :P

Yep, as lemonrev says, use the + and - keys to increase the gameplay screen size.

CzechDeath · Post by **CzechDeath** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:30 am

shane wrote:
lemonrev wrote:that screen thing is to do with + and - keys i believe that game setting that is trying to be worked out is do make the screen full screen while the game is running full screen :P

Yep, as lemonrev says, use the + and - keys to increase the gameplay screen size.

Yes I mean no =D +- doesn't work, however, I dont care about screen resolution, that I know how to set up in dosbox configurator more or less... I wanted to present the lack of 3dfx on my game...

HOWEVER it is solved... the solution I was looking for all along was:

Download latest nGlide, launch game from windows start menu, by launching the "Carmageddon(hardware)"

Because Dosbox either works, but it is ugly or if set snything better to see 3dfx it dosbox crashes... so fuck that and with that fuck the default shortcuts created on desktop after installation...

It was paifull... but now it works... and it runs as jerky as it did back in 96-7 on my 486 =D good god...

Breakin'Benny · Post by **Breakin'Benny** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:41 am

The download link is gone now, what the fuck could've happened? Should the GOG stuff be updated to ship with the CARM95 stuff now?

Toshiba-3 · Post by **Toshiba-3** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:32 am

If you're talking about the CARM95 patch for the GOG release, it is still available:
http://items.gog.com/winpatch_carmageddon_maxpack.exe

Forum discussion at GOG:
http://www.gog.com/forum/carmageddon_series/experimental_windows_95_patch/page1

Breakin'Benny · Post by **Breakin'Benny** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:35 pm

Toshiba-3 wrote:If you're talking about the CARM95 patch for the GOG release, it is still available:
http://items.gog.com/winpatch_carmageddon_maxpack.exe
Forum discussion at GOG:
http://www.gog.com/forum/carmageddon_series/experimental_windows_95_patch/page1

If I have to be honest, wouldn't it be easier to just have the CARM95 stuff shipped with the GOG install?

Toshiba-3 · Post by **Toshiba-3** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:18 pm

In our eyes, ofcourse. But not for GOG: Carma95 isn't 100% stable for all users, so they can't really support it as a primary way to play the game.

Breakin'Benny · Post by **Breakin'Benny** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:48 am

Toshiba-3 wrote:In our eyes, ofcourse. But not for GOG: Carma95 isn't 100% stable for all users, so they can't really support it as a primary way to play the game.

Then these people could use Hires (SVGA) mode and the cnc-ddraw mod, for presumably good reasons.

Toshiba-3 · Post by **Toshiba-3** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:03 am

Benny, the win95 patch is already svga+cnc-ddraw mod. Apparently it's the ddraw mod that has a little issue with some ATi drivers or something similar.

Breakin'Benny · Post by **Breakin'Benny** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:42 am

Toshiba-3 wrote:Benny, the win95 patch is already svga+cnc-ddraw mod. Apparently it's the ddraw mod that has a little issue with some ATi drivers or something similar.

It does flicker a little for me, though I doubt it's because of my NVIDIA Geforce GTX 460 card (It could be anything!). I have to wonder when the next version of this cnc-ddraw thing'd come, probably never, with possibly support for Carmageddon 2 so people don't have to use Glide wrappers for the sake of resolution..., like me.

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