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Trying to figure out how (Android Carmageddon)
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Deep_Blue created Trying to figure out how (Android Carmageddon) on Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:09 pm
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..to be able to look inside the .obb file.

I have WadEdit. I have Flummery, I have Noesis. I have a hex editor.
What I have No idea of is how to get started looking at the data.

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Does anybody?
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coffeycup on Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:20 pm
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Don't look at me! :lol:
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Deep_Blue on Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:22 pm
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Ya, I remember ya sayin' ya din't have an android. I'm hoping Tosh or somebody who's maybe took a look at it at least can point me in the right direction.
Then again, mebbe I'll just start screwin' stuff up and watch what changes.

:lol:

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coffeycup on Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:36 pm
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Even if I did have an android I don't know anything about hex code. :oops:
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Deep_Blue on Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:46 pm
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I don't either. Never did. I just look for filenames I can add/substitute/change. My problem is getting the .obb open. Some folks say it has regular PK header and should work if renamed from .obb to .zip. Tried that. No go. None of the C:R tools I have will open an .obb file. Gotta find another way. Time to start studying how those things are put together.
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Errol on Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:44 am
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So... OBB. Looks to be an Android thing that can be decompressed using JOBB. Once you've got that open I think you'll want to focus on DATA_ANDROID.WAD The WAD file has been used by Stainless before (some more info here). I assume that once you're in the WAD everything will be the same as the iOS version.

I must admit to not having done anything to test any of this. I could always add Flummery support for this if the call is great. I'm simultaneously letting down the modding communities of C1 (no functional CrushData editor), C2 (no simple way of making new skeletons and skeletal animations), TDR (no export for custom maps) and C:R (basically everything) at the moment. I see no reason not to add Android to the list of wishes unfulfilled.
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Deep_Blue on Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:53 pm
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LOL Errol. :grin:
Nicely put.
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QTZ on Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:40 pm
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I made a tool to extract the wad from obb - I call it FOBB. Basically it copy wad from obb (just drop the header). And then can rebuild the obb which can be copied back to android device (obb must be renamed manually). I have tested it only with Carma Free, but looking at the hex dump above (thank you Deep_Blue :)) I think I have guessed the meaning of each values correctly (at least when one file is stored in obb), so it should work with full version too. Looking at the dump here full version is only about 11 MB bigger (the cutscenes and audio tracks are stored in apk, so it size is unknown looking at this dump).

To extract wad - extract DotP Tools (more info and source) to directory where FOBB is extracted (bin subdir), also put the obb file to that dir where fobb.exe is. (Older version of DotP Tools are also included with WADEdit, so it can be copied over WADEDit files). Then extract wad from obb using FOBB and use created batch to extract files from wad, edit files then use second batch to rebuild wad (do not rename wad - it name will be stored in obb!), then use FOBB again to build obb from new wad. Then copy the new obb file to Android over original file (make backup!).

Use at your own risk!

I have tested this method before I made a FOBB, just once to see if it work and replace Eagle with Ivan which is included in Carma Free, but not in play. (It's simple switch, so indicator and other elements are from Eagle).
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PS: It looks like Noesis extracting the wad with errors, so do not use it to extract files from wad.

Edit: FOBB updated:
- headers detection and many other checks added
- more help-info
- interface simplified - two main buttons (it look like cmdln tool, but cmdln is not yet supported)
- now it start immediately after file selection

I have also unlocked all 7 cars present in free version, switch to more interesting track on this city area, set unused Ivan car for cops and replace some random peds with moo (cow), which made a free version much more interesting, unfortunately car crash rule for this game is so stupid and ruin game play anyway... (this is also possible to enable part shop and more..., however for free version car list is closed and rank increase is probably not possible).

Textures are in different format than in iOS version. IMAGEMAP in opposite to previous format look like compressed non raw data, some files are bigger, some smaller than previous (probably because of compression), so I think those textures may be even better than those for iOS.
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Deep_Blue on Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:25 am
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Whoa! Nice, QTZ! I'm glad *you* know what you're looking at. Soon as I get some time- I have to dig back into this.. :thumbsup:
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Deep_Blue on Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:03 am
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Ok.. I have some modding/experimenting time now that I'm on vacation.
I have spent some time getting acquainted with apk files, but haven't had a chance to mess with the .OBB yet.

I will attempt to follow QTZ's instructions above....
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sonofham on Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:26 pm
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Has anyone been able to download the .apk and .obb data to Carmageddon demo and host it somewhere? I have tried to download it to my phone(S4 mini with v 4.2.2) but no matter what I do the .obb data is always messed up and and I would love to try the demo out on my phone.

Thanks.

BTW I used winzip\winrar to open both the .apk and .obb files as I wanted to get the music from a games .obb file which was easy but the .fsb(if I remember correctly) I had to get a small app to open it which allowed me to extract the music files.:D

If there is a reply soon and I don't reply asap just please know we are having to deal with the death of my dad and the funeral,etc...Sorry for this part.

Just that I have been meaning to post my message regarding the topic ages ago and I was thinking about it now while we have to deal with everything that is happening,etc.... trying to keep my mind off what has happened and is still happening....

Not fun at all. :sad:
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Toshiba-3 on Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:10 pm
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Hey sonofham,

Sorry to hear about your loss :sad:

About the apk/obb, you can download it here:
http://rr2000.toshiba-3.com/R6/carma_android.zip
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sonofham on Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:31 pm
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Thank you.Can't wait to play it. :sbsmile: Will get around to downloading it soon. It was so hard today with the funeral,etc...
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QTZ on Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:10 am
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That's sad :(

The obb is not actually obb, it's some kind of archive, so you need to drop header - use FOBB (link above), then you can extract the files with another tool - read readme / look above.

However as far as I remember music playing with some distortion, so I think the file format is modified.

Also since they changed the rules this game is extremely stupid to play. No matter who hit - player or opponents - player gain the profits...
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sonofham on Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:37 pm
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Still once I get the chance I will download it and play it to try it out as I have had countless problems trying to download the demo from the Android Market.Why I don't know? That is why I just wanted to get the demo .apk and .obb files somewhere from the net to see how it played on my smartphone....

I really seem to be taking my dad's death really bad... :sad: :sad: :sad: I realized on Sunday that it is two weeks since my dad had passed away... :sad: .Sorry about this.
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Deep_Blue on Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:06 am
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I really must find some time to play around with this stuff as I play Android Carmageddon regularly- and just like PC carmageddon, I'm getting bored as hell with the stock stuff
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sonofham on Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:07 pm
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Got around to downloading the game and WOW.For a mobile game it is fun but battery life sucks and the controls are a bit iffy even though you can move the controls around to fit my "big" fingers but still. Felt weird but then it was Hey I am racing around in Carmageddon on my Samsung Galaxy S4 mini driving over peds and animals....

Coastal Carnage!!!! :sbsmile: The handling to me feels weird and the way the Eagle drives as well so far.Still.

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