Panzer WIP

[coffeycup]

I have wanted to make a tank since all the wayback to C1. So here goes...



Unfortunately, the turret has too many polys (Holy polygons, Batman!)

So I temporarily removed it to get it in game.



All 14 of the large bogies/sprockets turn.

Other than the turret, my only other problem is the name. I've always liked the pun/ double entré names of the cars in Carma.

But the only one I can come up with is "Pink Panzer" and I'll be damned if I am going to skin it in pink! Suggestions welcomed!!

[n3wton]

That looks kick arse! Grand Job so Far Coffey!

[Toshiba-3]

[coffeycup]

yeah, the textures aren't final. It does look sorta like concrete.

re grooves: poly count won't matter? I was going to put a groove on the turret to have it slowly turn from side to side and another even slower one on the cannon to have raise and lower a bit as the turret turned.

I will try adding the groove tonight, I'd like not to have to remodel the turret (in Sketchup btw)

[TTR]

You could've (if not made to a groove) cut it in half so you get 2 groups and if needed to flap or something (i'm talking in general not the turret) then you link them in PT2 and it flaps with the toppest component.

[coffeycup]

heh, not totally sure what you're saying

On another note, from my tests I've found that a kev-o-flap can have a goove, but a groove cannot have a kev-o-flap

i.e. you can make an flap with a spinning saw blade on the tip that swings out when you hit the 'action' key

But you can't have a grooved arm that has flapped pincers that you want to close when hitting the "action" key. The pincers would just stay in their original position and not move with the linked parent object

Erm, if you understand that, you're a bigger nerd than me

[Hairba11]

Panzinator?

Pansy panzer is hardly better than pink.

Think Tank?

LA's worst nightmare (from the dude that stole a tank and had the police chasing him)

yeah, I got nothing.

[TTR]

Trouser Panzer

[coffeycup]

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Trouser Panzer

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LOL!!!

more...

Potsan Panzer - (thanks Junkpile)

Pink Panzer

Panzergeddon

Die Panzer!

Tanksalot!

Mortal Tread

Turret Syndrome

Desert Faux

Afrika Korpse

[Mad_Maxine]

I got to say that looks pretty awsome :P allways wanted to do a tank, never could figure how it works tho, Cant wait to play around with it problem with ya stuff is its all good and im running out of ways to say it, so.. the short vertion,

Thats nice

[random_monkey]

"Dead Panzer"... like Deadpan?

*shrug* ¬_¬

[Festae]

Maybe its because I'm an ass.. but I cant stop my mild giddy laughter at the thought of calling it Turret Syndrome.

[coffeycup]

%$&*#@$!!

Panzer-A-Fire

Hot Panz

[Mad_Maxine]

Aslong as we is making random names,

Marzypanzer,

Panzy,

Peter Panzer,

Tanked up,

The slug, ?? i dunno.. i allways asociate slow things with snails or slugs.. only this aint snail like,

Or ya could call it Panzer mabye?

eh ive never been good with car names, i usualy get inspired by others,

[coffeycup]

@ Tosh, thanks for the tip on the groove. I did reduce polys on the turret, but still got the Batman error until I put a groove to make it slowly turn.

Now to fix textures/colors, simple model and paperwork, etc.

[coffeycup]

Camo paint job



Still needs simple model, menu images and a little more paperwork, but at least all the hard stuff is done

[TTR]

Don't you think the shadow is a tad too small? And i did like the gray one too

[coffeycup]

Yeah, it is.

But this project has given my many problems, textures not getting carried over, tracks stopped working, unexplained crashes, etc.

I ended up having to import it into PT2 in 3 parts - lower chassis, upper hull and finally the turret.

I am really not excited about going back and duplicating the effort again.....can you think of a way I can extend the shadow without going back and starting from scratch??



Edit: Sorry, I'm guilty of one of my pet peeves. Think I found the answer using the SEARCH feature, I should be able to import a few additioanl points and amalgamate them to the master component without flattening the whole damn thing. Will try it out tonight

re: gray

I might include a few paint schemes in the zip. Though I agree with Tosh that the original gray looked more like concrete than metal. I will try to make a better metallic gray and probably a desert tan.

[coffeycup]

(Sorry, if I edit previous post picture won't display)



Which one should be the default skin? Camo, gray or tan? God, I'm indecisive lately!!

[coffeycup]

@TTR I guess I can't amalgamate additional points onto a part that has a childern heirachy unless I flatten it. So shadow is going to stay as is

I was hoping to release with a simple model, I've started including them in the last few cars I've done. But this time the damn simple_model won't show up!! I named right. It's the correct size and position. I put the SIMPLE_PANZER.DAT, .MAT and .ACT and TIFs in the PANZER folder. WTF!!!

I'm going to take a break go play Guitar Hero 3, this is pissing me off!!!

[Econobrick]

I've had that simple model problem before. Notably, with the '68 VW bus...I haven't encountered it in a very long time though.

In that case, what I did was:

In PT2, renamed the main component from VWT2.1 to...VWT2.1 (!)

but with the "based on: model identifier" thing selected and both "rename: actors and models" checked.

Why this made a difference / why it didn't work in the first place, I haven't the foggiest?!

As I recall, if it still doesn't work after that, do the same thing again. Except play around with the capitalization...you shouldn't have to actually change the model's name beyond that.

EDIT: As for the shadow problem, you can still solve it by flattening the hierarchy while STILL keeping everything, but the method of doing so is a bit convoluted...

-make a copy of the tank's main act dat and mat files.

-open the original or the copy in pt2 and delete everything (child objects included) except for the main component.

-import the new extra vertices etc. to be included

-flatten the hierarchy and within pt2, rename it's act and dat back to what it was originally.

-save

-reopen this new main component

-if asked for INTERNAL_HEADLIGHT_STOCK (or whatever the fuck), hit ESC until it stops asking.

-import the entire copy...but do not drag it into the new component...

-...but rather drag all of its other parts into the new main component in the order they originally were.

-delete the remaining old main component and its hierarchy so that only the new one remains.

-save again!

-delete the now useless act dat and mat from the folder...whichever you took the parts from.

Note: I dunno about you, but in XP for me dragging objects from one hierarchy to another doesn't work anymore (it did on my old win98 machine.) so this will make the process a little extra pain-in-das-arsey, but the end result will be the same. since you can't drag, you'll have to transfer the stuff to the new hierarchy by doing this for each object:

-highlight target hierarchy's main component

-go to Object -> New...

-hit the select button for the Model field

-locate the part in the list that comes up and hit OK.

-enter the name. add .ACT to the end as necessary.

-hit OK.

I know that's annoying, but I've been doing it on every car I've made since I got this damnedable OS?!

[coffeycup]

Thank you, Sir for the info.

I will print this out and take a stab at it again tomorrow.

I don't know why every step making this vehicle has been a challenge.

It really shouldn't have been.

Enough, I will feel better in the morning

[Qwerty_86]

Gray standard skin!

[coffeycup]

VEHICLE: POTSAN PANZER





DRIVER: HEIMLICH MEINUBER



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ACHTUNG!!!

Das Potsan Panzer is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben.

Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen

mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das

rubbernecken noobenheimers keepen handz in das pockets.

Relaxen und vatch das peds gehen sie splatten!!!

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TOP SPEED: 40MPH

WEIGHT: 24 tons

LENGTH: 18.1'

WIDTH: 9.5'

HEIGHT: 8.5'

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@ Econo - both suggestions did the trick, danka schein! You got to love a process that involves skill, luck and a little voodoo to get a car in a game!!

@ Qwerty - Gray it is!

Download here

[hazardic]

Cool!! i think this driver may be in faust 2 for example too

[Beast]

Excellent! And the description is hilarious

[Toshiba-3]

[coffeycup]

Thanks!!

Controllables: I think I used all the wheel positions up, so the turrent doesn't turn with steering.

But on something this big, the turret would move too quickly anyways if linked to steering.

Size, I believe is accurate. It was a small tank, only 8.5 ft high.

Uncrushable tracks:I agree, I left the tracks out of the WAM I thought that would've done it but they still take damage???

Cool screenie BTW

[Qwerty_86]

Very sweet crushing ability!

[coffeycup]

Tanks a lot!!

Love that cop crushing shot

[PyrozPlayground]

HEIMLICH MEINUBER! hahahahahaaa that's great!

[coffeycup]

Sorry for bumping this thread. But I finally made the tank treads uncrushable.

Not sure why I didn't do it to begin with. I updated the archive with a new zip