ok.. wile the script is simmering (or drowning) another thing that needs to be talked about is the feature list.

this is nothing more then a brain storm session on ideas and fetures we would want in the game.

post away -

abillity to have ballon tires as suspension, and tires that go flat and come off... trailers and stuff like that...

uh, i know what a ballon tire is and i know what suspension is... but i dont know what 'ballon tire suspension' is ...

tires coming off should be added ... i dont see a real problem with this feature.

flat tires - if its done like in mafia i dont see any problems.

good ideas..

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removable bodies .... if you car wrecks really bad, the driver can be thrown out of the car.... maybe even thru the glass.
-IMO wrecks should damage the character (ala: mafia)... a fatal car crash should be just that... fatal.

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*i like power up/add-on features...like what they had originally mentioned with C3...or if ya remember an arcade game called Roadblasters....you could set up generic nulls and default points on all the cars that are to be in the game..then once a power up is added like BAMFC then a cannon model would become attached to that null on the model...also Vigilante8 uses sumthin like this...a speed power up would show an over grown engine with a blower attach to the model....a flame thrower power up could have a lame thrower turret added.

*the ability to get in and out of cars as in gta3

*realistic car handling, powerslides,acceleration,damage....big plus has to be model distortions like crumpelling

*i like the idea of a gas/mileage deal...if you have a performance car it would suck gas faster or if ya had a behemoth of a tank...along with this category i also like the idea if you over tax your cars performance too much it stalls and you have to "restart" it....the more damaged the longer it takes to restart.


...i think the first and last are pretty original and haven't been used in games much and would think would be a benefit...the powerups and gas management would also be alot of fun if the game had any network capability

i ment balloon

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if ya remember an arcade game called Roadblasters

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not at all important, but i made the main car from that game for c2 once.

...and to have cars with visible upgrades like that would be awesome!

Um... Some good features that should be added...

Must Have:
Either hard shadowing, or Traced Shadowing
Static and Transient Lights
Fog
Transparency Maps
Keyframing by vert and object
LOD object replacement
Object instancing

Pretty much nessecary to create cool stuff:
Reflections if not just environment ones
Particle effects
Physics effects in particles
Lensflares
Animated textures
Scrolling textures both static and controlled
Texture replacement
By face physics/traction control
Zoned Area physics
Zoned Lighting and environment effects control

Wishes, but not nessecary:
Bump maps
Specular level Maps
Reflection maps/Material ID maps for reflections
Weather effects
inter object shadowing


Dependent on the Game Enviornment:
Environmental/weather/temperature controls
Environmental sky shifting


For the cars, I am thinkin to take about 50 to 100 stock bodies, and adding engines, tires wheels, guns armor and other stuff, all by object replacement.... that would make a really cool customized car, rather then like 20 or so to choose from. Say you have a Dodge Charger, and you put a desiel engine in it, for power, not speed, put alot of armorments on the front of it, guns on the roof, a grenade launcher in the back, and spiked wheels....... Hmmmm just imagine that.... But the game physics must also account for that extra weight.... it wont be fast... but it sure will pack a punch....

Course the flip side is that you take the same Charger, load it with only minimal armor, a high torque v8 for speed, not power, maybe some machine guns, and you have the perfect straifing vehicle.... Minimal work, maximum gain...

really cool ... so who is the wiz kid who can build us an engine with all that super cool stuff ???


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common compression for file groups (PAK, TWT, etc.)
text based parameter files for vehicles, characters and maps

Nice list of features.. hard to add something else at this point... but anyone mentioned "dinamic" damage like C2 has? no that pre-modelled damage crap like gta3, that's ugly.

And yea... who will program this masterpiece? even Junkpile is MIA or something...

we need you guys to to fond some programmers as we have no programmers or engine